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(153 votes) Published: Sep 15, 2007 8:53 p.m. In 1 Favorites Lists Viewed 1275 times
Well, they’re not really hollow points, but they work just like them. m really not sure what to call these. But they do a hell of a lot more damage on small game. I’m guessing they would do more damage on people, but Alle says the difference between REAL hollows and plain lead bullets is minimal on people.
DON’T COUNT ON THESE FOR PEOPLE HUNTING!
You will need:
Standard .22 ammo
Nice clear workspace, like mine
Two grades of sandpaper, on fine and one coarse
A few STEEL ball bearings (more detail later on)
Drill and drillbit (drillbit must be about the same size as the bearings, start small because you can always drill more out, you can never un-drill)
(the drillbit is inline with the bearings to show similar size)
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Drilling into curved surfaces is hard and painful, so we’re going to give ourselves a flat surface to drill. Grab the bullet and the coarse sandpaper. put the sandpaper on a hard, flat surface, and, holding the bullet as straight as humanely possible, rub it bullet side down onto the sand paper.
Repeat the process on the fine paper.
Don’t take to much off, just enough to have a slight flat surface.
You want a nice flat end. Sorry it’s a bit hard to see, I don’t have a good macro lens. I don’t have one at all :(
Now, in the MIDDLE of the bullet, drill a hole about 1mm deep. or about 1/16" deep (hope I got that right..)
I just has to be deep enough to house one of the steel bearings, with a small portion of the bearing sticking out.
This is about how big the bearings need to be (compared to a standard airsoft BB)
(no sexual innuendo, that happened by accident)
Press the bearing in, it should be snug, and shouldn’t fall out, but should still be able to roll a little.
Now there will be a slight lip around the hole where you drilled, press this up around the bearing, it acts like the claws on a ring, holding the gem in place. Thats the best I can describe it. I can’t get a clear enough shot to show this, sorry. Just have a look at your moms ring and you’ll see what I mean.
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Now it’s finished! The whole thing should be about the same size as a regular bullet, else it wont feed properly in most guns.
What it does/How I discovered making it:
now I’m sure these are sold under some name, but I’ve never seen them so.. yah.
I started by drilling small holes in .22s to make standard hollow points
Since .22s are so small, I kept getting the slug out of really small game after having to shoot it three times to down it. Looking at the hollows i tried to make, the hollow was filled with hair and skin, and it didn’t expand much.
Then i tried larger holes, It lost accuracy and the thing just broke into pieces inside the animal (not good for downing it painlessly)
So I pressed a steel BB in and VOILA! the slug expands nicely, and doesnt fragment.
If you can’t grasp the concept of hollow point bullets, you shouldn’t be allowed near guns, for your own safety. I feel I need not to explain.
Don’t use lead shot, they will probably just compact the same as the bullet, instead of being pushed through the bullet expanding it.
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Safety
Just because it deforms more than a standard .22, doesn’t mean it cant ricochet. Ricochet can kill, don’t shoot hard surfaces, no matter how cool it sounds (yes it sounds fucking cool)
Try to get the holes as centered and symmetrical as possible, if its off center you will be sacrificing a LOT of accuracy.
Sep 15, 2007 9:14 pm - I should give this a five, but only because of the egg, not the contents.
Not only is modifying ammunition dangerous, it will also blow your accuracy to shit. If you dont drill in the exact center, your bullet is going to wobble like a fat woman. Drill too deep, and you risk the structural integrity of your ammunition, and your bullet will fragment on impact, causing wasted meat. Any burrs, or excess material can also scar your barrel, resulting in even less accurate rounds.
Sorry man, i got to give this a 3.
And I fucking KNEW you were shooting CCI. I kept thinking of CNC, but thats a grinder. My favorite CCI round is the .22 stinger hypervelocity. in 32 grains. I belive it shoots in the upper 1600 fps, which makes it a VERY fast .22.
Sep 15, 2007 9:18 pm - CCI is the only ammo I can get easily.
I have a box of hypervelocity somewhere in the huge pile of junk that is my bedroom, costs twice as much though.
I also have these cheap ones called warning shots, they have no powder, just a primer. They’re designed not to kill, just for target or shooting people as a warning, hehehe..
Sep 15, 2007 9:23 pm - Original, however drilling into a rimfire round, not something I’d ever suggest. As for this,
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Alle says the difference between REAL hollows and plain lead bullets is minimal on people.
While they both kill, hollow points expand way more than lead does. Its more of a controlled expansion and the effects can be very devistating on a person, if youve ever recovered a bullet from say a Golden Saber from a .357 and a lead bullet from a .357 you notice a difference, the lead bullet tends to break where as the hollow point[the golden saber] retains alot more wait and expands more. This makes the effect on people more devastating as the excess of the weight combined with the expansion of the bullet, rips through flash ripping more organs and skin.Because of the originalness, 3*. AGAIN DONT TRY THIS its dangerous, and I’d advise you stop doing it yourself.
Sep 15, 2007 9:23 pm - Also, if you do manage to set a round off, don’t worry it wont kill you. the shell might go fast enough to break your skin, but the bullet wont do shit. It will scare the shit out of you though, and it will probably snap the drill bit.
If you drill further than 1/4 of the way through, the bullet will fragment (break into small bits) and wont do nearly as much damage as the whole lump of lead tearing through. KTHX
Im out for a while. peace.
Sep 15, 2007 9:24 pm - Are they aquila super colbris?
I fucking love those. I shoot them in my basement at my pellet trap when i get bored, or run out of pellets. They shoot only like i think 500-600 FPS, which is a bout half as fast as my pellet gun, but it still has a bit of stopping power.
Great to shoot at wandering cats you want to stay away from you too.
Also, if you do manage to set a round off, don’t worry it wont kill you. the shell might go fast enough to break your skin, but the bullet wont do shit
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! It can kill you a bullet is a bullet, you could kill a deer with a .22 if you were a good enough shot, it could kill you, read up.
Sep 15, 2007 9:34 pm - You cant just say "You can kill a deer with a .22 if you are a good enough shot". Being a good shot has nothing to do with whether the deer dies or not. Where it is hit, the speed and weight of the bullet, windage, angle, mass of the deer, density of muscle tissue, location of the internal organs, and type of ammo all are variables that come in to play, not to mention the aspects you cant control, such as wind speed and air density.
But yes, a .22 can cause serious damage.
And eric, I sell ammunition for a living, dont try to talk to me like i am some prepubescent self proclaimed "pyro".
Sep 15, 2007 9:42 pm -
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if youve ever recovered a bullet from say a Golden Saber from a .357 and a lead bullet from a .357 you notice a difference, the lead bullet tends to break where as the hollow point[the golden saber] retains alot more wait and expands more. This makes the effect on people more devastating as the excess of the weight combined with the expansion of the bullet, rips through flash ripping more organs and skin
Congratulations, you have just defined the effects of a hollow point round. THIS I KNOW. Lead bullets do not "break". In fact, some slugs have better weight retention % than hollowpoints.
Sep 15, 2007 9:57 pm - Alle, im not talking to you in that way, Im talking to to the guy that thinks its safe to modify .22 ammo in this unsafe manor . Im just saying two things on this topic firstly if you really said,"the difference between REAL hollows and plain lead bullets is minimal on people.", then you should quit selling ammo. And being a good shot plays a big factor on whether the animal dies or not, if that wasnt the case you could let a bullet graze his leg and watch him fall down and die and retrieve your buck. Shot placement, normally by accuracy although the occasional fluke does happen, plays the biggest roll in killing an animal. Oh and I can say you can kill a deer with a .22 if youre a good enough shot, mostly because its true. Although its illegal and inhumane because you could fuck up the shot, again I dont condone or think its right to try to do that.
Sep 15, 2007 9:59 pm - With a man sized target, .22 traveling at subsonic speeds is not going to do much. You shoot a hollow point, and not much either.
I dont know of YOUR credetials, Eric, but I would be VERY happy if you would quit assuming things, throwing out bogus facts, and denying the truth.
Congratulations, you have just defined the effects of a hollow point round. THIS I KNOW. Lead bullets do not "break". In fact, some slugs have better weight retention % than hollowpoints.
While some do, they also dont do the same amount of damage on people or game that a hollow point does, mostly because a lead bullet doesnt expand it tends to break apart or stay as a whole.
With a man sized target, .22 traveling at subsonic speeds is not going to do much. You shoot a hollow point, and not much either.
Are you fucking retarded??????? A hollow point is designed for hunting game, and personal defense, because of the expansion. I suggest you get back to you ammo selling job at Big 5.
Sep 15, 2007 10:20 pm -
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Are you fucking retarded??????? A hollow point is designed for hunting game, and personal defense, because of the expansion. I suggest you get back to you ammo selling job at Big 5.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK! But we are talking about a fucking .22, the second smallest caliber commercially available. The low speed plus low weight of the bullet, does NOT allow it to expand to its full potential. The differences would be so miniscule, it would be hard to tell one from the other. What the fuck is a "big-5"
I dont know WHERE the hell you think you got a pair of e-nuts, but i would reccomend keeping your noise hole shut untill you can grasp the concept of how things work.
Come back and talk shit when you have a decent egg. Your only "egg" has been done 999x9^999 times.
If your so ammo savy, do tell, Eric, what ARE your credentials. Wait, let me guess. You are 12, and your daddy lets you hold the spent shells when you go to the range, right?
Sep 15, 2007 10:26 pm - I must agree with Eric a .22 can kill a deer or a person, i don’t know where you are getting your facts, but you better go and check them out again. I have been shoting rifles and guns all of my life, and he is right.
Sep 15, 2007 10:39 pm - Lets get this into perspective.
Firstly, a .22 is the 3rd smallest bullet size commerically available.
Secondly, my credentials are 15 years of reloading ammo and many more of shooting and hunting.
Thirdly, a Big-5 is a shitty sporting goods store on the West Coast its around as gun friendly as a Wally World
Fourthly, As for the hollow point, I believe we were talking about a .357 the .22 pertains to accuracy and shooting a deer although both could kill a deer or a person.
Fithly thanks for putting down my egg although it hasnt been done 999999x99999 times over, mine was its own version of downloading directly to a PSP with no computer.
Sixthly, 12 and holding spent shells at a range ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL not true but a god damn good burn.
Seventhly, Im going to let your lack of knowledge on weapons and ammo be your burn for that is the biggest burn of all, the truth.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! It can kill you a bullet is a bullet, you could kill a deer with a .22 if you were a good enough shot, it could kill you, read up.
Are you fucking retarded? The bullet will
A: spin, because of the lack of rifling
B: lose 90% of its power due to escaping gases (the barrel stops this, thats why rifles are more powerful than pistols, the gas can propel the bullet for longer, before the gas is dispersed out the end.
I have been hit in the stomach by a 9mm round that was thrown into a fire by some dumbass on 4h july, and it left no more than a welt.
GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT.
Are you fucking retarded? The bullet will
A: spin, because of the lack of rifling
B: lose 90% of its power due to escaping gases (the barrel stops this, thats why rifles are more powerful than pistols, the gas can propel the bullet for longer, before the gas is dispersed out the end.
To answer your question, NO I’m not fucking retarded and to disprove all of you A and B shit here we are
A:All bullets spin because of there being rifling.
B:Because the concept of a .22 in a rifle is to big of a mindfuck for you to grasp?
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I have been hit in the stomach by a 9mm round that was thrown into a fire by some dumbass on 4h july, and it left no more than a welt.
GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT
Awesome story although none of my facts mentioned you getting hit or not getting hit by a 9mm.
Sep 15, 2007 11:24 pm - I’m talking about it spinning around, flipping dumbass, not spiraling around.
Sep 15, 2007 11:25 pm -
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Lets get this into perspective.
Firstly, a .22 is the 3rd smallest bullet size commerically available.
Secondly, my credentials are 15 years of reloading ammo and many more of shooting and hunting.
Thirdly, a Big-5 is a shitty sporting goods store on the West Coast its around as gun friendly as a Wally World
Fourthly, As for the hollow point, I believe we were talking about a .357 the .22 pertains to accuracy and shooting a deer although both could kill a deer or a person.
Fithly thanks for putting down my egg although it hasnt been done 999999x99999 times over, mine was its own version of downloading directly to a PSP with no computer.
Sixthly, 12 and holding spent shells at a range ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL not true but a god damn good burn.
Seventhly, Im going to let your lack of knowledge on weapons and ammo be your burn for that is the biggest burn of all, the truth.
I think ill do a bit of point by point here.
1. Do tell, what is the other caliber? A .22 short is still a .22 caliber, nub.
2. "im kool", an exerpt taken from his profile. To have 15 years + much more experiance, you would need to be about 8-10. Add, welll say, 20 years onto that, and now, my friends, we have a 30 year old, with no life. Good attempt at trying to sneak that one in under the radar though, asshat.
3. He who buys ammuniton at walmart, pays at least 2x as much as he should pay. Avoid at all costs.
4. No, pretty sure "in the other thread" I was talking about a .22. Your questions pertained to that thread, i answered your questions in relation to that thread.
5. Its called a hyperbole. Use a dictionary, find the meaning, and then take the ignorance stick out of your ass.
6. Yes, i know.
7. Nice try at being prophetic, but its not quite the label it pick for a 12 year old. Maybe, resident pokemon master, or even WoW champ, but not a prophet.
Just do us all a favor, and stop pretending.
And yes, Negro is correct. The lack of the barrel will decrease the power exponentially.
Sorry for the thread hijack, but if it makes you feel any better, i posted new JB a few minutes ago ;)
Sep 15, 2007 11:26 pm - If a bullet tumbles it loses most of its speed.
The bullet doesn’t hit you when its nicely spiraling like out of a gun if it goes of OUTSIDE THE GUN.
Your interpretations are highly distorted.
Are you fucking retarded? The bullet will
A: spin, because of the lack of rifling
You know what you meant, you’re just trying to save face.
And bullets rarely do some weird shit like that where the bulletd does a fucking rotation in the air if you believe thats what bullets can do regularly, you need to quit being around guns.
Sep 15, 2007 11:32 pm - Negro, do us all a favor and bloxlist this Asshat, as will I.
Sep 16, 2007 3:16 am - nice work Negro0nFire. to bad i dont have a gun lol. nice effort 5 from me. and i agree if you dont know what hollow points are, stay away from guns lol.
Sep 16, 2007 3:21 am - kissmycck, hollopoints are bullets that plitopen and break apart indise the target lol. yer Australia has some prety shit laws (no explosivs, no guns, and not even visco fuze)
Sep 19, 2007 9:53 am - i don’t know much about guns and rifles. But i have had plenty of expierence, my grandad owns a big scrapyard right 2 his house and i was having a look at this old 70’s mini cooper he was going 2 restore and sell on. He had just dug it out an old pile of other cars and the interior looked in quite good condition, so i looked around it and pried open the boot and i found a shitload of junk in good condition (in other words it wasn’t broken, damp or dirty or anthing like that). i had a look at it all, it was mostly old magazines and a load of old tools and shit, but there was this big black bin liner trash bag filled with somthing quite heavy, i opened it and OMFG.
It was a couple of 20 year old spanish air rifles both with 50x magnification sights and both in almost perfect condition. The barrels had a tiny bit of rust here and there, but i sanded that off and sprayed a new layer of paint ovr them, and the wooden shoulder bit needed a bit of that wood treatment stuff and varnish (2 make it look smooth and shiny, varnish is only slippy on wooden floorboards).
It was the find of a lifetime and they r incredibly accurate, not exactly worthy 4 hunting but more 4 fun, though the farmer next door did give me £30 ($60) 4 sitting in his corn field shooting pigeons that tried 2 even get near it. It uses these tiny but VERY accurrate pellets shaped kinda like this...
The flat topped ones r used 4 target shooting---> ">|" the round topped ones r pretty much the same but more accurate---> ">D" the pointed ones look like the round top ones but have sharp points on the end instead, supposedly 4 hunting but all those rifles can kill r small animals and birds. 4* anyway
Apr 10, 2008 4:36 pm - 3* only because it is much easier just to get a sharp knife and cut a cross across the top. This will make the bullet fragment on impact. A lot quicker and easier.
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