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(119 votes) Published: Oct 28, 2007 8:36 p.m. In 3 Favorites Lists Viewed 426 times
Welcome to Chompy’s Beginners Guide for choosing a dirtbike, this is part one of a 2-3pt egg on starting off with the wonderful sport of motocross. In this egg I will explain all you need to know about choosing the type of dirtbike you need and how many ccs are important or vital for you.
Here is everything that will appear in this egg.
A.Getting your bike
1.What brand of dirt bike is right for me?
2.Two or Four stroke?
3.How many ccs are needed for me?
Here is everything that will appear in part 2 of this egg series B.Choosing the gear that you need
1.Racing Gear
2.Eduro Gear
3.Free riding gear
4.Are these all required?
That is what will be covered, so lets get started.
Since this is intended for beginners I will start of by talking about the 5 mainstreem types of dirtbikes to choose from.
ONE Yamaha Dirt Bikes
Here is a picure of a standard Yamaha dirt bike
This is my current type of dirtbike, I find these dirtbikes to be very reliable and would recommend them for people who just want to get on the bike and start riding in the woods or on trail rides, these are not as good for racing as just being in the outdoors. So if you want a strong reliable bike and plan on going trial riding our out around mountains anything of that sort then this bike IS for you. If you plan on becoming a racer, then do not purchase a yamaha. I would recommend this bike also if you want to get into enduro races (uncontrolled LONG races through the woods and road)
TWO KTM Dirt Bikes
Here is a picture of a standard KTM dirt bike.
To put it short, these dirtbikes are made to get the piss beat out of them, these bikes are not made for someone who just wants to put around the bushes. For these bikes to function to their potential would be for a rider who wants to go fast.
This bike is good for racing but not if you want to do arena cross(racing in a controlled indoor environment) The type of racing these bikes are made for, is in sandy,mud,outdoor conditions you would most likely want one of these bikes if you plan on flying around sand dunes or flat dirt paths. I would not recommend this bike if you want a casual ride through rough terrain in the woods or you will constantly need to be reving it to prevent it from stalling.
THREE Honda Dirt Bikes
Here is a picture of a standard Honda dirt bike
Ah, the choice brand of many riders, and for many reasons. These are very strong reliable dirtbikes and work very well. These are pretty much the same story as Yamaha dirt bikes. They are very good for outdoor trail riding, enduro, and just beating is through the bush. Another plus for these though are they are very good racing bikes for the outdoors meaning tracks that are like the arena cross ones, but are in the outdoors with more room for jumping and straight aways, these are not recommended for indoor courses. If you had no other option though these bikes would hold up fine against indoor motocross bikes. You would not want to treat this anything like a KTM though unless you don’t plan on it lasting long.
FOUR Suzuki Dirt Bikes
Here is a picture of a standard Suzuki dirt bike
I must say right off the bat, these bikes are a little husky compared to all other bikes. Not saying it is a bad thing but they way more and are a little wider than most. Now these bikes are ment for indoor motocross. These are the choice for very many indoor motocross riders, they perform well for tight turns, jumps, speeding up and slowing down quickly. The only down fall is that is what they’re great for. If you plan on going out through the bushes you do not want a Suzuki as much as you would a Yamaha. That about sums up a suzuki bike, plain and simple indoor racing bike.
FIVE Kawasaki Dirt Bikes
Here is a picture of a standard kawasaki dirt bike
This bike is just like suzuki’s ment for indoor racing. These will hold up just find for outdoor trail riding but if you want them to reach their full potential you will want to let this bike loose on an indoor course. Not much more to say about it since it is so closely related to suzuki bikes.
Now that you have heard all the choices for the dirt bike you may be interested in you will also have another question to answer... do you want a 2-stroke or a 4-stroke dirt bike
2-stroke A two stroke bike is a bike you pretty much plan on beating the balls off of, it will have a much higher sounding engine that a four stroke and will excellarate much faster. These types of bikes are ment strictley for racing the reason for that is you must constantly be revving the bike or hitting high speeds to keep the engine going. If you plan on going trial riding it will be nearly impossible, you will have to constantly be clutching and revving to keep it from stalling out this can get VERY annoying. So unless you plan on racing or going on extremely fast trail rides do not get a 2-stroke. Also in a race situation if you and a 4-stroke stall out having a 2-stroke engine will start up quicker with a faster take off. You will also need to mix your gas for these bikes to work, they will not take regular fuel
4-stroke A four stroke bike is a bike meant for calm rides that have to potential to get intense. These bikes have a much deeper sound that 2-strokes and do not constantly need to be revved to keep from stalling. You can practically be going 1mph and this bike will not stall out on you. That is a very good thing, it also takes standard unleaded fuel which is a lot easier and quicker to get going. Also although these bikes have a slower take off and start off slower in the long run, once up to speed they will most likely speed by a 2-stroker. Over all I would recommend a 4-stroke over a 2-stroke.
Finally is choosing your amount of ccs, this really can’t be explained much because it is all personal choice of the performance you want so i will just list the standard cc amounts and an age range for each
NOTE: there are other cc ranges but I am just listing the standard ones, also not all brands carry certain choices of these cc ranges
50cc-this cc is for a little kid anywhere from 5-11 depending on their size, although some grown men customize these bikes and race them, not to much power to get them seriously injured or out of control but just enough power to put their powerwheels to shame
85cc-anywhere from a 7-14 year old also depending on their size, some 15 or 16 year olds even race these bikes on indoor arenas because of the fear of going to fast and getting to high off jumps, not enough power though if you want to take it on actual trails
110cc-I would say 11-16 this is a cc I started out on depending on your dirt bike brand they can be very powerful and a good bike for racing and outdoors I would recommend this to someone who has never rode before and wants power without having too much
125cc- these bikes are for anyone 13+ depending on how much power you want, if your over 230lbs though this bike will not put out enough power for you
175cc- 14+ this bike does not have much of an age weight restriction and is good for bigger guys who are starting out
210cc- 15+ now your getting into power bikes, this will put out a good amount of force and carry the biggest of guy around pretty easily
250cc- 15+ now this is as big as they get size wise even 450cc bikes have the same frame size as these almost all the time this bike is perfect for big guys are smaller guys if you can handle the power there is not much more need for a bigger cc than this unless you want to boast about how much power you have, I recommend this cc brand more than any other
360cc- Nothing special
450cc- The king of all bikes, the highest stock cc you can get on your average bike this is if you want extreme power or if your just a very large person. Not much to say about this.
Well this is my egg on choosing the type of dirt bike you should get, and your cc range. Also if you need a 2 or 4 stroke this was all done 100% by me from personal experience and knowledge I picked up from riding for over 6 years, hopefully this will help you choose what you need or at least get you interested in the great world of motocross. In the next day expect a part 2 with all the types of gear you need and for what type of motocross your doing what is essential and non essential.
It is not all about pranks though, there are many good instructional eggs in the directory. There are just a lot more "prank" eggs than those, so you don’t see as many.
Oct 28, 2007 9:35 pm - I think I might have started around 11 or 12 I don’t really remember just that it was like the summer of 5th or 6th grade lol. Thats when I had my little 110 Kawasaki, but anyways I’m goin to bed for now.
Oct 29, 2007 6:40 am - i thought all of the bike manufacturers were pretty much the same but it was the model of bike you chose that would determine if it was better going round the woods or blasting along at the track.
also ive noticed that people have started to use 4 strokes in racing now aswell. one theory i heard was that the extra couple of strokes allow the tyre to ’relax’ between the power strokes thus giving it more grip.
anyway, it was an alright egg. ill rate it whatever its at now. 4*.
Oct 29, 2007 3:54 pm - allright. Im not sure exactly how much experience you truly have or how much you claim to have but one thing i do know pretty well is dirtbikes. Ive owned 2 kawasakis, a yamaha yz125, a honda and a suzuki drz250. And put it this way... Honda=fuckin around in the woods, Suzuki=reliability,perfor ance and durability,Kawasaki=balls out racing, not very beefy, yamaha=trailbikes meant for speed not too durable. A 2 stroke motor is a type of engine that fires the piston on every revolution, it has a reedvalve and doesnt run efficiently. the exhaust runs through the crankcase so it is common that they stall out in unusual air pressure conditions and when they are overturned. They have a higher compression ratio so they start a little easier but they are EXTREMELY UNRELIABLE. 4 stroke motor is a standard OHC motor that runs smooth and quiet but isnt very aggressive. They have more torque and reliability but have more moving parts to make them more tempermental to different oils, strain and changes in clutching and gearshifting.
Oct 29, 2007 3:58 pm - You can still find 500 two strokers, and there are alot of 650 four strokes. Also, When you get to the race bikes, like the CRs, YZs and KXs they are all pretty much the same, so making a motocross guide explaining the differences isn’t good, expecially since you delved into trial riding much more than motocross.
Four strokes give more low end power, as in torque. However, a four stroke couldn’t hope of out pacing a decent two stroke. Four strokers have the potential to, since you can throw larger sprockets on them, but for racing most are geared the same.
Sorry to pick this apart, its good and I’ll give you the highest score, but try not to be subjective.
Oct 29, 2007 4:02 pm - Your perception in changes in displacement is a little whacky. a 125cc 2-stroke bike will have the power of a 250cc 4-stroke bike. The difference is how quickly the motor revs up, how much torque it has through the powerband and how much the engine heats up. Alot of dirtbikes today are watercooled but you will notice that the high performance bikes are a combination between watercooling and air cooling. You cant assume that two 125cc bikes are the same if they are both 2 stroke or 4 stroke. Different bikes have different compression ratios and ignition timing setups so that they have power at different parts of the powerband and are designed for completely different usage. I prefer SUZUKI over any other brand. Honda is allright, Yamaha is junk, kawasaki is weak junk and KTM are overrated. Suzuki builds bikes according to how you plan to use them. Their RM models are minimalist and not bulky at all and has the right combination in braking between the front and rear wheels, it has a VERY small rear wheel for more torque and traction to kill any hill.
everyone remember that all of the top 5 companies make a 2/4 stroke for woods/race, arguing about them is pointless. there all pretty much the same bike just KTM is "race ready" with high end suspension, etc. what this means is that it will cost you more. Yamaha and Honda are also different only by the feel of the bike: center of balance, triple clamp angle, etc. u can adjust these accordingly to ur needs. BTW recently in Motocross de Nations Ryan Villopoto beat Chad Reed (Yamaha YZ450F) and Ricky Charmicheal(Suzuki RM 450) on his KX250F which as we read has only half the power of all the other bikes.
I never recommended a 2-stroke for beginners anywhere in there. They would shit themselves unless theyre naturally talented by starting on a 2-stroke lol
Oct 29, 2007 8:14 pm - your bustin my balls lol, i just typed yamaha dirtbike in on google images beginners wouldnt know what any of it stands for, anyways here is my bike so you know im not bullshitting (its 4-stroke) those are my quads and motorcycle in the background too.
Nov 01, 2007 11:15 am - 4 stroke over 2 stroke u suck... engine rebuild on a 4 stroke is like £700+ on a 2 stroke its only like £300-£400 i love the power on 2 strokes to lol x peace x
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