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(132 votes) Published: Jan 01, 2008 11:54 a.m. In 1 Favorites Lists Viewed 653 times
Im back! I havent made an egg in a long time due to surgery after a car accident. I made the mistake of letting one of my friends drive my VW GTI and I was in the passenger’s seat. This is just something I NEED to put out there.
Anyways, What i am about to write about is much more complex and detailed than anything you will learn from Forza2, any videogames or any Driver’s ED class. If you have a fair understanding of Physics than this will make sense to you. If not, than i will try to explain it as simply as possible. Most of this SHOULD seem extremely boring to you but reading this will give you better confidence in your driving and speeding around town racing your friends. 10 minutes of boring reading will make your driving alot more exciting.
Alot of people dont know how to control their car. This is just because they dont understand physics, they dont know their car well enough to know when something is wrong, or they are just complete idiots.
The main physics principles that will help are:
-An object in motion will stay in that same motion until an outside force acts upon it (friction, normal force, additional force).
-An object moving around a corner with a constant speed has an increasing velocity. OR in other words, an object moving 35mph around a tight corner is actually accelerating even though the speedometer has the same reading the whole way throughout.
Before you hop in your car and whip it around a corner and slam it into a tree, take a look at your tires, find out whether it is FWD or RWD and take a look at your brakes. A RWD car will require more deceleration around a corner to keep traction (car leans forwards and puts weight onto the front wheels). A FWD car doesnt require as much braking but can handle acceleration around corners much better.
The object is to take a corner at a high speed without breaking the tires loose from the pavement. I have seen many idiots in BMWs slam on the brakes around a corner and slide straight into fences and walls. Although that car was traveling at 35 mph, an experienced driver could take that same car around that corner at 55 or 60 with barely a tire chirp.
Friction is the principle around hard cornering. If you are able to keep a constant velocity (decreasing speed) around a corner than your car will not slide out unless friction with the ground is reduced. So hitting the brakes without locking up the wheels around a corner will give the best control. Any time that a G-Force is felt, the car is accelerating in some fashion. Whether the acceleration is negative (deceleration), side to side (cornering) or positive (take-off), the car is always accelerating when a G-Force is felt. Moving at a constant 75mph on a straight highway does not give any G-force because there is no change in speed.
The 2 best things to remember when flying around a corner in a car are as follows:
-Friction used for Acceleration cannot be used for steering.
-Friction used for deceleration cannot be used for steering.
It doesnt matter whether you are driving a Mack Truck, a Lamborghini or a Plymouth Horizon, if you break your front tires loose from the pavement, you cannot steer.
If you dont believe me, get ahold of the fastest car you can. Take it to a parkinglot and try this...
If it is a FWD car, roll it at 5mph in a parkinglot and do a big burnout while turning the wheel to the right or left. The car will continue to go straight. This is why donuts in your car become wider and wider when you go faster. Most of the friction between the tires and pavement is being used to make the car accelerate, so it cannot turn as quickly.
If you have any car (FWD, RWD, AWD), try this...
Speed along at 40 mph through a parkinglot in a straight line and slam on the brakes to make the front tires lock up. While they lock up, turn the wheel left and right. The car will continue to go forwards. If you have ABS than the wheels will not lock up. The car can sense when the wheels lock up so it keeps control to the front wheels.
Traction control systems (TCS) are used to balance the power to make the car accelerate AND steer. It goes in combination with ABS. It senses your engine speed, wheel speed, how much brake is applied, how much throttle is applied, the G-Forces and the amount of friction that the car has with the ground. If your car is a Volvo or any other car with TCS, try this...
Take the car on a straightaway and take it to a full stop. Slam on the gas and you will notice that the car will do a big burnout. Then, take the car and cut the steeringwheel all the way to the left or to the right and slam on the gas. The tires will squeal minimally and the car will take the turn in a way that friction used for acceleration and friction used for steering is balanced to its maximum potential for performance in handling and safety.
So with those little tests, you can take a car around corners and get the hang of taking corners as quickly and safely as possible. I wont lie, i have spun out in my car about 20 times. But when i Spin out, i do not slam on the brakes or lay on the gas as hard as possible unless i know it is completely necessary.
A few months ago, i took a left hairpin turn near a cliff doing 75-80 mph and i slid the rear of the car out. I knew that my front brakes were stronger than my rears and that if i hit the brakes than the rear would slide out more. So instead, i downshifted and slammed on the gas while turning right instead of left. By turning away from the inside of the street, i could stabilize the rear of the car, i then pulled up the ebrake to slow down the rear wheels and get them to follow the front wheels better. I made it out of the corner without spinning and i was still doing 70 mph at the end of the turn. I used the available power of my car to take advantage of the friction rather than locking up the wheels and trying to steer which would have smashed me into the guard rail.
I hope a few people actually try a few of those tests and take note of how a car behaves when pushed to the limits. Most idiots just slam on their brakes right before a corner then lay on the gas the whole way through. That is why they dont keep their licenses OR THEIR LIVES for very long.
Jan 01, 2008 11:59 am - friction always comes to your advantage unless it is unwanted (air drag, blown wheel bearings, dragging brakes, low tranny fluid). When friction is iminent, it always works in your favor. So take advantage of it but understand that friction and traction are different.
Jan 01, 2008 12:21 pm - She wanted to drive my GTI, she was hott, so i let her. And i guess she didnt get the memo about swerving around potholes around hard corners. Having the engine get pushed through the firewall and end up in your lap is always a blast.
Jan 01, 2008 1:17 pm - 0*s because making tight turns at high speeds shouldn’t be how you handle a car. And I actually did learn most of this in Drivers Ed.
and paulmarti, 0*s on everything of yours, your a prebubescent child who cant even reach the pedals on a car yet. so dont tell him how to drive -_-
Im not trying to start anything, but thats just my rating and reason. I’ve seen numerous "experienced" drivers here racing or just plain being wreckless and still getting into accidents. Kids over here (I live on a military base on Okinawa) have access to rice cars are will go out racing thinking that they’re badasses. A lot of them will get into accidents off-base where they’re not even supposed to be driving and could (and some do) get put into Japanese jail for up to a month before they will even question him. Stupid stuff like that is what is causing the deterioration between Japan, Okinawa, and the U.S. And I don’t really care a lot about my eggs anymore; I’m too lazy to make more. Now I’m just using this to rate eggs and put my two cents in.
Jan 01, 2008 3:17 pm - im sorry but you cant just rate someones egg a 0 because you think it "encourages wreckless acts" unless it says so itself. Much of what i am teaching in this egg is to control a car that has gone out of control. So if you actually DID read this whole thing and not just 0 it automatically, it may just save your life someday. But chances are, with your ignorance and know-all attitude, you have your own solution. Just because you dont like ricers doesnt mean you can 0 my egg. I dont like Ricers either, i have 4 volkswagens. I race 2 of them in SCCA races, 1 is for AutoX racing as well as drag racing. My last one is a daily driver. I encourage legal racing but it isnt a huge felony just to screw around with some friends on the street every now and then. Nobody needs to listen to me, but i may want to advise that i know a thing or two about racing and handling a car... I DID get into 1st place in an Auto-X competition in which 250 cars were in my class. The car i was driving was a Bone-Stock 1990 VW Golf. The other cars were Acura NSXs, Skylines, VW R32s, Honda S2000s, other VW mk2s, civics, bmws and a couple Audis.
Jan 01, 2008 3:29 pm - This guide is to PREVENT those accidents that you are thinking about. It really sounds like you are just looking for something to complain and argue about. Kids on Okinawa are not the reason why Japan has a fading relationship with the US. George Bush sucks, end of story there. Ricecars are not fast enough to get into an accident with. Theyre called "fender benders" and "bumps". I think i will rate your thermite egg a 0 because it encourages wreckless acts. Kids are going to fuck around in cars and speed around no matter what. People do fun things because they are fun. Not because they read about them online. If i was concerned about it, i wouldnt have written the egg. The reason why i wrote it is so that people DONT end up like me. I had a vw motor push through the firewall onto my lap and my camlock harness wouldnt release. The fuel rail cracked and fuel sprayed all inside of the car and ignited off of the exhaust manifold. I had the skin melting off of my leg. Having a better understanding of how your car handles is how you drive safely EVEN IF you wish to screw around and take some hard corners BECAUSE ITS FUN. It is not wreckless behavior if you have the situation under control and you do it responsibly.
an 01, 2008 3:36 pm - my last comment, Why is it that your insurance rates are dropped after you attend a skid school? I mean, these are all of the things that they teach you in skid school. IF it is so wreckless, dont you think that your insurance rates would go through the roof? I guess you might as well just call up your insurance company and tell them that your going to paint the car yellow, slap a big spoiler on it, put a Fast and the Furious sticker on it, shoot up some heroin and drive around at night with sunglasses on. You are a fucking idiot. I hope someone punches you so that every time you open your mouth, your face hurts.
Jan 01, 2008 8:10 pm - Nice way to keep your argument mature until the end. Alright, I’ll admit I made a mistake in giving this egg 0*s and thats not just because of the consequence of my eggs being 0*ed; I could care less. And no, the way people drive cars here, accidents happen all the time. The cars here crumple a lot easier. It is a huge deal when teenagers get in wrecks off-base; innocent people are put in danger and those individuals’ families are almost always torn apart. George Bush has had little to no effect on the relations between the Okinawan people and the military here. There have been complications between the US and the Japanese ever since the island was given back to the Japanese. I’m not going to defend the action of giving you a 0*s as you clearly display an expertise in controlling your vehicle. The second and third comments I made were actually directed to Bsmovies, whom I’ve respected until now. Cheers, happy driving, and Happy New Years.
Jan 02, 2008 6:31 am - Very nice . I had a flat on my 67 mustang and power slid across a bridge and ended up in the opposit direction. Gravel roads and snow is fun to practice safe driving.
Jan 02, 2008 2:55 pm - dont complain to ME about YOUR OWN military group. Japanese cars crumple like unbelievable. It gives the vehicles upsides and downsides over domestic and european cars. The fact that it is so lightweight gives the car good fuel economy, lets it hit higher top speeds and the lower vehicle density can actually help it in certain crash tests. But the fact that it is so lightweight also makes it difficult to control at high speeds, makes its handling and acceleration suck and the cheap design gives alot of body flex.
Before you hop in your car and whip it around a corner and slam it into a tree, take a look at your tires, find out whether it is FWD or RWD and take a look at your brakes
and if they look fine then hit the tree!
and this is stupid, basically you told everyone to not drive like morons.
Jan 02, 2008 4:08 pm - its perfectly fine to drive like a moron, it just depends on how long it lasts. If you suck at driving like a moron than it is going to be a short-lived run. You will probably encounter a large solid object (fents, bircks and crubs). I drive like a moron, but i know what i am doing. That is why i dont slam into objects and kill myself, i leave that to the females.
Jan 02, 2008 4:20 pm - btw the whole reason why i told you to check out your brakes and tires is just to understand the performance level of them. If you have disc brakes on the front and drums on the rear than the front will have more stopping power than the rear. IF you have low profile stretched tires than your car will have better cornering than a schoolbus on pizza-cutter wheels.
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