Legal Herbs to Smoke/Alter Your Conciousness
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Published: Feb 01, 2008 9:51 a.m.
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I’m getting kind of sick of people posting about bananadine and how Morning Glory seeds contain LSD and how Datura is safe and all this shit. I want to set the record straight. I used to be like a lot of stupid newbie drug-using teenagers, eager to get my hands on anything that would fuck me up. I learned the hard way after too many close calls with my body and mind that I needed to start respecting myself and the drugs I used. I decided that to use drugs responsibly, one has to be very scientific and observant. Now I pretty much never use anything without extensive research and experimentation. This is a list of legal (or semi-legal) plants and herbs you can use when you feel like trying something different. Please understand, these drugs are not marijuana replacements, they’re alternatives. Every single green leafy bag of plant matter you smoke isn’t gonna give you greenscreen and make everything funny and give you the munchies. These drugs are all different and special in their own way, so treat them with the respect they deserve, or you could end up fucked up in a much different way than you expected.
Here are some herbs you can try. They are all legal, cheap as hell, effective (none of them are placebos, believe me), and easy to come by.
Damiana: Turnera Diffusa, a small green shrub with tiny flowers that grows in Central and South America. It is said that it was used to make the first ever liqueour. It is a very potent plant, it contains a compound or two similar to caffeine but with slightly different effects. It does energize you, for sure, but it mellows you out first. If you smoke a nice fattie or a few bowls of it (best in a waterpipe because it burns hot) you’ll be all heavy bodied and smoothed out for about 20 minutes, but still clear headed and able to get up if you have to. I have anemia, and when I start crashing it really helps to smoke a little bit of Damiana to clear my head and re-energize me. After the 20 minutes of heavy-bodied euphoria, you’ll have great, subtle, jitter-free energy and a mild sense of well being for about an hour and a half, sort of like marijuana. It’s a great plant, not to overwhelming and definitely not too subtle. At the end of this guide I’ll tell you about where to get this stuff and all the other herbs I’ll list. Damiana is my favorite marijuana/tobacco alternative by far, it beats a cigarette any day and it’s great.
Skullcap: Scutellaria Lateriflora, like marijuana, just a bit more subtle, for sure. It’s the herb that will definitely give you that weirded out feeling coming down from marijuana gives you. It can be a bit overpowering when smoked in excess, but I assure you that it won’t make you crazy, and while you may want to refrain from driving after smoking copious amounts of skullcap, you’ll be able to in a pinch. It gives that common feeling of well-being most drugs give us, with a weird, otherworldly tint to reality, just enough to notice. It will also seriously mellow you out for a good half an hour or more. It has a very pleasant smell and agreeable flavor, and burns very well. Please understand that this is not the smack in the face, quasi-psychedelic experience of weed, but it is certainly not a placebo. Skullcap is a great herb to smoke at night, either before bed or in combination with Damiana for a night out with an unreal feeling. It is definitely a night herb, with great effects that you will know are real.
Hops: Humulus Lupulus, related to marijuana, Hops are part of the Cannabinacea family and definitely share characteristics with weed. They are yellowish brown when dried and dry into buds, not like weed, but similar. They reek like feet, but when you smoke them they taste good. It’s like how beer kind of smells bad and bitter but tastes good, because beer is made from Hops. When you smoke hops you get the feeling of coming up on marijuana but never quite reaching the plateau. They seriously really really really mellow you out, too. They are used to treat insomnia, anxiety, and depression, so you can kind of understand how they make you feel. Be careful if you do have anxiety or depression, because Hops can make it worse. You should experiment a little and see how it goes. If it makes anything worse stop, if it doesn’t, definitely continue. Hops are a sedative/hypnotic type of drug, I can kind of compare the feeling of smoking a bowl of hops to taking a low dose of Ativan. Supposedly the heart of the Hops flower, which is full of orange resin/pollen, is the strongest, but I don’t know, give it a try if you want. Hops are great, they are wonderful for relaxing, falling asleep, or calming yourself down after too many cups of coffee after a long night with friends at the coffeeshop. Try them out, you will like them, I promise.
Lobelia: Lobelia Inflata, a plant which contains Lobeline, which the body recognizes as Nicotine. Great for breaking the smoking habit, gives a slightly Nicotine-like buzz. I’ve only ever tried the liquid extract sprinkled on an herbal joint, so I don’t know for sure how great it is, but I definitely felt the central nervous system depression it causes. Try it out, but be careful, and tell me how it works for you.
Mullein: Verbascum Thapsus, doesn’t really have any psychoactive effects, but burns cleanly and smoothly and keeps other herbs that may not burn to well burning and lit. It is also such a strong lung-cleaning herb that it supposedly removes some of the tar from your lungs while you smoke it, thus negating the harmful effects of smoking. I often put it in with my herbal blends, usually to make them less strong or to keep them burning or to help with my lungs. It’s useful, not mind-alteringly powerful, but it serves a purpose.
Kava: Kava Kava, a very strong antianxiety herb, cannot be smoked, but is very effective in treating depression and anxiety. Not a party drug, but it pretty much basically almost saved my life, so I thought I would throw it in. I hope it can help somebody else.
Morning Glory: Ipomoea Violacea, Heavenly Blue and to a lesser extent the other groups of the Ipomoea Morning Glory plants produce seeds which contain alkaloids very similar to LSD. Chief among them is LSA, Lysergic Acid Amide, which is, of course, basically an Amide of LSD, it essentially is LSD give or take a few atoms. There are other ergot-related alkaloids in the seeds (and pretty much ONLY the seeds) which produce INTENSE mind-altering psychedelic effects. The best way to get the experience is to eat the seeds. A good threshold dose is about 100-150 seeds, and a full blown, LSD-like trip dose would be anything over 250 or so. They taste like ass dipped in sewer coated in piss, so I grind them up and put them in pills, but you can do an ethanol/cold water extraction on them. I’m not going to tell you how, if you look it up online you’ll find a billion articles telling you how. Be prepared though, this experience will most likely be life changing or at least incredibly powerful. LSA is not a toy, and must be respected. If you’re going to use it to have fun, you must respect it. Make sure you are in a stable state of mind before using Morning Glory seeds, and make sure you are ready to handle the experience. It is best to have a clear-minded friend with you (a sober sitter) to make sure you stay calm and sane and safe. Please be safe when using Morning Glory seeds. And don’t use them repeatedly and continuously and frequently for long periods of time, they can really mess up your liver and give you gangrene (you hands and feet turn green and fall off), but not if you just use them now and again. Just be careful and respectful. Also, if you’re going to go the dumb route and buy the seeds from a store instead of growing them, they WILL be coated in poison. The poison shouldn’t kill you, but it will give you a stomachache and probably make you puke up your Morning Glory seeds. Morning Glory seeds cause nausea on their own, but it is usually manageable and you can probably deal with it. Have fun, be safe about it. Enjoy what the earth can give you.
Wormwood: Artemisia Absinthium, the stuff they make absinthe from. I put it last because I think it is the most physically dangerous. It is subtle but pronounced, giving an unreal feel to the world around you. It gives you something called the Dollhouse Effect, where everything around you looks like a dollhouse, like everything is exactly where it should be. Be careful with this one, watch how much you use. Have fun and know your body.
That’s all I have to give you for now, and those are most of my favorite things to use. All of the herbs can be found in just about any good health food store or herbal tea shop or herb shop. If you live in a somewhat city-like area, you can probably find an herbal tea shop near you. Just go to your local healthfood store and ask to see the bulk herb section. All of the herbs (not the Morning Glory seeds) can be made into teas, which are more subtle, longer lasting, and better for your health. Just add near-boiling water (not boiling, this will destroy most of the drug molecules in the herbs) water to a pinch or two of each herb. Most of these plants are about $2 an ounce or less. Good luck and have fun with herbs and your new hobby. Be careful and have fun and tell me how it works for you. |
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 | Feb 01, 2008 9:58 am -
Ehhh 3*S pritty pointless thow cuzz most people on RE are under age to smoke so it wouldent madder if the substence was legal or not, BUT i can see that this would be good for the older people on RE that get tired or getting busted smoking POT, But most these herbs porble wont do nutin. |
 | Feb 01, 2008 10:09 am -
at least you took your time and did it right
very informative
LSA is a trip, nothing too intense
but good nonetheless
you forgot Hawaiian Baby Woodrose
it contains LSA as well, however you only have to eat about 10 of them and you have an intense LSA trip, a little harder to find, you can buy them in bulk online, but much better tasting, enjoi
4* |
 | eb 01, 2008 10:25 am -
this dude is on the bus
props, 5* for takin it furthur |
 | Feb 01, 2008 10:47 am -
verrry comprehensive, and by the looks of it, you’r own material.
a couple of pics yould ahve got you a 5.
4* |
 | Feb 01, 2008 11:37 am -
5* |
 | Feb 01, 2008 1:53 pm -
^^ you dont trip on weed dumbass |
 | Feb 01, 2008 3:27 pm -
You should of had pics of all the plants you are writing about. I still liked it. 5* |
 | Feb 01, 2008 5:25 pm -
5* for sure...adding to favorite...quality egg...right on man! |
 | Feb 01, 2008 8:08 pm -
I’ve smoked damiana too. Pretty relaxing stuff.
Another good one I’ve heard about is ’Lion’s-Tail& squo; -I haven’t tried it yet ,but soon will.
5* on your egg (+ faves), well written. |
 | Feb 01, 2008 10:16 pm -
5* wormwood makes ultra bitter but effective tea. it also gives you very disturbing/fucked up dreams if you sleep on it. |
 | Feb 02, 2008 8:50 am -
oh yeah, i forgot about lion’s tail (aka wild dagga). i actually grow that one, i love it. it’s the best replacement i know of. i can’t believe i forgot it. thanks for reminding me. and thanks for all the good ratings and comments, people. i’m thinking of doing a sequel to this one because i’m realizing i forgot a lot of great plants and herbs, plus i got really tired and just had to stop when i wrote this one. thanks, see you guys. |
 | Feb 02, 2008 10:08 am -
5*
cause your not a deuche and brag about smoking |
| Feb 02, 2008 10:10 am -
Quote: 5* since i need an alternate to weed , trip to fucking hard when im on that shit =(
FAIL |
 | Feb 02, 2008 10:42 am -
Great egg, really informative. 5* |
 | Feb 02, 2008 11:04 am -
Personally I would say stick to pot, it might be illegal but its quite easily acquired and it is very safe. 4* for effort though. |
 | Feb 02, 2008 11:35 am -
post purple haze |
| Feb 02, 2008 11:35 am -
btw 4* |
 | Feb 02, 2008 2:01 pm -
5*. theirs a herbal mix online called toke xxx, chillin xxx, and neirvana xxx (all the same,but some are cheaper)their all damiana based and really strong. great weed alternitives. |
 | Feb 02, 2008 6:04 pm -
5* Faves. |
 | Feb 02, 2008 9:07 pm -
nice way around the illegals, 5* |
 | Feb 02, 2008 10:49 pm -
I don’t do drugs, I hate having my mind altered.
But still, it’s a great egg, I gotta say. 5***** |
 | Feb 03, 2008 6:05 am -
0* load of bollocks most of that shit is very mild |
| Feb 03, 2008 8:47 am -
no it isn’t, actually. that’s why i put the info here. i don’t waste time with placebos, i’m a drug user and these are drugs. go smoke some hawaiian gold bud or big buddha bud if you want to know what mild is. |
 | Feb 03, 2008 9:58 am -
i dont understand why the rating is so high, its not like you discovered these. U could find out the same shit using google. Then you bitched about people talking about morning glory seeds, and then you included them in your egg.
Ill give you a 2 for your troubles |
| Feb 03, 2008 10:16 am -
i was bitching about people having the wrong information. i didn’t discover these, but i brought information to people, which is what this site is for. |
 | Feb 04, 2008 12:01 am -
Great egg man! way back when my tongon friend hooked it up with some kava.. shit tasted like dirt and made my mouth numb! but it was pretty relaxing =] 5* |
 | Feb 04, 2008 4:16 pm -
5*...Gotta be honest with ya man, this is about the best egg I’ve seen. On this subject anyways. |
 | Feb 04, 2008 7:02 pm -
this is an amazing egg the best iv seen on this site for this kindof stuff you should for sure make another |
 | Apr 13, 2008 11:20 pm -
You took ur time,infomitave and doing some of those things mite be worth trying 4* |
| Apr 13, 2008 11:20 pm -
You took ur time,infomitave and doing some of those things mite be worth trying 4* |
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