Is there an easy substitute for KNO3? For Aussies
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 1:50 a.m. - Subject: Is there an easy substitute for KNO3? For Aussies |
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I was wondering if there is an easy substitute for KNO3. Would match powder work?
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 2:05 a.m. - Subject: |
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No it wouldn’t. It’s completly differant. KnO3 supplies the oxygen, and oxygen doesnt burn on its own. Matches however, do. It wont. But Sodium chlorate, its a health, salt alternitive.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 2:15 a.m. - Subject: |
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Ok Thanks NegroOnFire
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 2:28 a.m. - Subject: |
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doesnt stump remover have kno3 in it ,oh then you would have to like filter it,nvm
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 2:34 a.m. - Subject: |
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stump remover is like 99% kno3. Some have less, to prevent pyros like us from using it, but most are > 97% pure
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 4:07 a.m. - Subject: |
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Quote: But Sodium chlorate, its a health, salt alternitive.
NO NO NO NO NO. Potassium chloride is the healthy version, and its not oxidising. Whilst sodium chlorate is oxidising, its NOT sold as a salt alternative.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 4:12 a.m. - Subject: |
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sodium chlorate kills joo
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/~hmc/hsci/chemicals/sodium_chlorate.html
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 4:26 a.m. - Subject: |
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Emoguy, if you want kno3, i can get it for you if you live in sydney.
I can’t get you too much though
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 4:39 a.m. - Subject: |
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wait a second... an emo?!?!?!? forget what i said earlier, it wont kill you, go out and eat as much as you can. its really healthy, honest.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 5:06 a.m. - Subject: |
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You can try using Ammonium Nitrate.
Ammonium Nitrate is the powder found in instant ice packs.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 5:34 a.m. - Subject: |
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Beleive it or not....piss.
LOL yeah I’m serious you have to dry it.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 7:23 a.m. - Subject: |
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potassium permanganate is a good option if you are an aussie. hell i got it from my local pharmacy easily and im an aussie. You may need an excuse for why you need it though, just say you wanted to make crystals because you were inspired to make them from school. this stuff can be better then kno3 in some cases, but it stains a very bad purple color to anything when you ad water. A good powder to start with is 1 part potassium permanganate to two parts sulfur (bunnings and mitre 10). use it very soon after making it though, as it has the tendency to loose allot of its burn speed after a day or so.
CHANGE YOUR FUCKEN AVATAR
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 7:38 a.m. - Subject: |
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Quote: Valo, it tells you how to do that in thegr8tests egg.
There you go! I knew I read it somewhere!
Nice find, mate.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 10:24 a.m. - Subject: |
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yes there is, it called saltpeter.
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2007 11:45 a.m. - Subject: |
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Fuck using AN as an oxidizer for flash powder. Make some APAN, ANFO, ANAL(Ammonium Nitrate/Aluminum), or something similar.
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| Posted: Jun 06, 2007 2:47 a.m. - Subject: |
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Haha Ammonia Nitrate/Aluminium. ANAL lol
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| Posted: Jun 06, 2007 3:12 a.m. - Subject: |
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I can get you kno3 if you live in sydney though, aslong as you are willing to pay.
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| Posted: Jun 06, 2007 5:22 a.m. - Subject: |
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*Clears throat.*
Quote: KnO3 supplies the oxygen, and oxygen doesnt burn on its own. Matches however, do. It wont. But Sodium chlorate, its a health, salt alternitive.
Sodium free salt is potassium chloride, not potassium chlorate. Not to mention KClO3 and S are incompatible due to spontaneous combustion and sensitivity issues so black powder is out of the question.
Matches contain potassium chlorate as the oxidiser (as well as other shit). You can extract the KClO3 from the match heads and make a sort of black powder substitute called H3 (KClO3 and charcoal) but it’s too much effort for too little. Not to mention H3 can be sensitive.
Quote: doesnt stump remover have kno3 in it ,oh then you would have to like filter it,nvm
Filtering calcium carbonate (the coating) is easy. Dissolve the stump remover in hot water then filter the chalk out. Potassium nitrate dissolves but calcium carbonate doesn’t.
Quote: stump remover is like 99% kno3. Some have less, to prevent pyros like us from using it, but most are > 97% pure
They don’t sell stump remover in Australia.
Quote: You can try using Ammonium Nitrate.
Ammonium Nitrate is the powder found in instant ice packs.
You can’t substitute NH4NO3 for KNO3. It won’t work properly. Ammonium nitrate is extremely hygroscopic. Leave some on a bench, come back in a few hours on a humid day and it’ll be a puddle of water. There is a composition which can work in the right climate and conditions called ammonpulver. Some weirdo country tried using it as a propellant in one of the wars. It contains NH4NO3 and charcoal. Not worth it at all. Ammonium nitrate is no use unless you’re making high explosives, which no one here is.
Quote: There is a way to get it out of sparklers on bombshock.com
The sparklers in Australia don’t contain and potassium nitrate - they contain barium nitrate.
Quote: Beleive it or not....piss.
LOL yeah I’m serious you have to dry it.
You might be serious but you don’t know what you’re talking about. Urine contains mostly urea. If you nitrate the urea to make urea nitrate it’s a little bit closer, but still way off, can’t use it for anything except nitro urea (a high explosive, no good for anyone here).
Quote: potassium permanganate is a good option if you are an aussie. hell i got it from my local pharmacy easily and im an aussie. You may need an excuse for why you need it though, just say you wanted to make crystals because you were inspired to make them from school. this stuff can be better then kno3 in some cases, but it stains a very bad purple color to anything when you ad water. A good powder to start with is 1 part potassium permanganate to two parts sulfur (bunnings and mitre 10). use it very soon after making it though, as it has the tendency to loose allot of its burn speed after a day or so.
Wrong, bad, no. You fail. Yes, you can get it easily, but in no way is it a good or better substitute for potassium nitrate. This is because KMnO4 is incompatible with sulfur and charcoal. Over time the KMnO4 can react with the sulfur and cause spontaneous combustion. Same with charcoal. Accidental ignition, shit like that. Sure, it’s a great oxidiser, but not if you like safety. Oh wait, I forgot you’re hardcore. Nevermind, go for it noob.
Now to answer your question...It is very easy to get potassium nitrate in Australia. I know of and have used three completely different sources. I’m not going to tell you where they are or you’ll do something stupid like emo your emo you stupid emo.
Loooooool...Thank you and good night. Hope I pointed out how unreliable idiots are. Sweet dreams.
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| Posted: Jun 06, 2007 9:06 a.m. - Subject: |
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Well done Po, would you like a peanut?
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| Posted: Jun 06, 2007 11:36 a.m. - Subject: |
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Quote: yes there is, it called saltpeter.
ermmmm...that is kno3/potassium nitrate
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