Legal status of marijuana
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 8:55 p.m. - Subject: Legal status of marijuana |
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Why is something that has so many benefits illegal?
Well it was right after alcohol prohibition, racist bigots and fundamentalist Christians banned the drug because of racial biases. "It makes white women sleep with Negroes".
Legalization would open up so much opportunity, it could end the fuel crisis.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S9Am3yUDt3M
It may have properties that could cure/prevent/treat cancer!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
Marijuana is non-toxic, you cannot overdose on it.
http://www.drug-overdose.com/marijuana.htm
Industrial hemp, is the non-psychoactive fibers of the cannabis plant which can be used to make virtually everything. Industrial hemp has been used to make paper, ropes, ship and even clothes. Industrial hemp is illegal even though you can’t get high from it, yet china and other manufacturing companies make hemp clothes regularly. By all means, not all things are natural but marijuana scientifically has been proven to do more good than harm. It could be sold to responsible adults, and only be sold by people with licenses similar to alcohol sellers. People would grow it on their own anyway.
Why is it still illegal? Because you can’t patent a plant, and the FDA doesn’t recognize smoking something as a efficient way to take medicine. There has been synthetic marijuana supplements formed in pills (Marinol) but you can actually OD on that, and you wont even feel anything. If marijuana were legal, the big pharmacy corporations wouldn’t profit. All of the cheap and mass produced synthetic medicines would stay on shelves gathering dust.
Medicinal benefits:
*with sources
ADD & ADHD
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117541,00.html
Alzheimer’s
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/8/1904
Appetite Stimulant
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051226102503.htm
Arthritis
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/17/9561
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/ctmc/2006/00000006/00000013/art00008
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/33376.php
http://www.webmd.com/rheumatoid-arthritis/news/20051108/pot-based-drug-promising-for-arthritis
Asthma
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22937.php
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/ctmc/2006/00000006/00000013/art00008
Diabetes
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060227184647.htm
http://www.level1diet.com/14687_id
Depression
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=9160645&ordinalpos=32&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.jci.org/115/11/3104?content_type=full
Epilepsy
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/4423.php
Atherosclerosis
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20050406/marijuana-chemical-fights-hardened-arteries
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/ctmc/2006/00000006/00000013/art00008
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22658.php
Chemotherapy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7098340.stm
Fibromyalgia
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/november292007/leveque_fybromyalgia_112807.php
Gastrointestinal disorders
http://www.scribd.com/doc/294822/Medical-Marijuana-GI-brochure
Glaucoma
http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/116/11/1433
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/17284931/abstract/Neuroprotective_and_Intraocular_Pressure_Lowering_Effects_of____Delta_Tetrahydrocannabinol_in_a_Rat_Model_of_Glaucoma
Heart Disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=1420630&dopt=Abstract
Hepatitis
http://www.ebmonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/196/4/401
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/49/2/427
Herpes
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040923092627.htm
http://www.ebmonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/196/4/401
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/49/2/427
HIV & AIDS
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/17364413/abstract/Marijuana_as_therapy_for_people_living_with_HIV/AIDS:_Social_and_health_aspects
Multiple Sclerosis
http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Sep2002/MedMJForMSSpasmsAndPain.html
http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/65/6/812?etoc
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/17257464/abstract/Meta_analysis_of_cannabis_based_treatments_for_neuropathic_and_multiple_sclerosis_related_pain
Neuropathic pain
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/545812/in_medpanel_summit_leading_pain_experts_name_cannabinoids_among_most/index.html?source=r_health
Osteoporosis
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=15220
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96146
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/103/3/696
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/35621.php
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2616-natural-high-helps-banish-bad-memories.html
Marijuana is no-where near as bad as people see it. They still have marijuana listed as a schedule I drug. That’s putting marijuana and heroin on the same level. All things natural are not good for you, take a look at opium. The only drug to make a entire civilization fall to its knees. Marijuana does not do that. If a doctor will prescribe morphine, (an opiate pain reliever) to a patient, why cant that patient choose to use something safer?
The dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 70’s and since then hard drug use has gone down, not up. Why does government propaganda still say marijuana is a gate-way drug?
The fact is prohibition doesn’t work. During alcohol prohibition, people were fermenting alcohol in bathtubs and people were going blind from it. Why should responsible cannabis consumers have to fear going blind or getting weed laced with embalming fluid or PCP? Laced weed is uncommon in the marijuana community.
Tell me what you think about the current legal status, your views on why its good/bad.
Visit:
http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=11280301
Quote: NORML is pleased to report that H.R. 5843, an "Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults," has been introduced in the House of Representatives by Representatives Barney Frank and Ron Paul.
This measure, if passed, would strip the federal government of its authority to arrest responsible adult cannabis consumers. NORML founder and Legal Director Keith Stroup worked extensively with Frank痴 staff to write this important legislation, which represents the first cannabis decriminalization measure introduced in Congress in 24 years. |
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:08 p.m. - Subject: |
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Everyone here knows all of this... What are we supposed to do about it?
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:08 p.m. - Subject: |
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Because its a drug.
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:11 p.m. - Subject: |
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Because its an awesome drug.
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:24 p.m. - Subject: |
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i find it interesting ur argument is backed up by youtube videos......is it just me or is that not necessarily scientifically accurate. dont get me wrong. legalizing it would solve some of the problems but i thought it was funny u used youtube
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:25 p.m. - Subject: |
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and actually, it isnt illegal b/c it makes women sleep with negroes (although that is grounds for ban) but it is a mind/brain altering substance that can be very dangerous....the end
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 7:38 a.m. - Subject: |
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It probably took you more than two hours to make this thread.
You can keep wasting all the time you want to, because marijuana is not going to be legalized. Just so you know, I have absolutely no problem with that.
Quote: i find it interesting ur argument is backed up by youtube videos.
I agree.
Quote: it is a mind/brain altering substance that can be very dangerous.
Get that through your head.
One of the many effects..
Quote: diminished or complete loss of sexual pleasure
Have fun with that one.
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 7:40 a.m. - Subject: |
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It would solve some problems, and create more.
Even if they did legalize it they would probably make the age 21(just like alcohol)
and seeing that you are around 12, you still would have a long way to go.
Besides, smoking for pleasure and for medicinal uses is two different things
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 10:52 a.m. - Subject: |
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hm, i wonder what kind of price it would be after tax etc..
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 3:10 p.m. - Subject: |
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It also is a gateway to harder drugs
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 4:58 p.m. - Subject: |
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You all are faggots. I’m just trying to make an interesting discussion thread. Thus it is on topic discussion. Fuck RE. I get it medicinally and YOU faggots are 12.
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 5:03 p.m. - Subject: |
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And the sources being directed from youtube, theres nothing wrong with that. The video is one of norml which is a well-known marijuana law reforming organization and the other is witness accounts. All the sources I gave you werent from pro-marijuana websites, they were pretty neutral based. And the youtube videos werent like lonleygirl15 or some old webcam dude giving his opinion. Weed is a mind altering substance, but one of the least. By far its probbably the least bad mind altering substance you could use. There are studies that compare driving under the influence of marijuana. Having medicinal properties that can cure attention disorders, they have found it to help people focus on driving more so than un-capable.
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 4:39 a.m. - Subject: |
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who the fuck do you think you are diac?
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 2:39 p.m. - Subject: |
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i think the government keeps it illegal so they can keep all the sports cars and money seized from international drug dealers,
its also political, many white , middle class straight edge suburbanites will vote based on the anti drug "war on drugs" propaganda . there votes will be lost if marijuana is legalized
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 3:53 p.m. - Subject: |
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It is illegal because they want fucking money.
Do you realize how much money people make off drugs?
1) Drug dealers, if it was legal, there would be few.
2) Prisons (and everyone who works in them)
3) Cops
4) Lawyers, Judges, Security Guards at court etc.
Not to mention that you can’t patent a plant, hence no money to make.
Hell we can just sell anyone with pain some fucking synthetic opiates and there you go 10$ a pill! Way more money than the medicine companies could make off marijuana!
Just a whole line of bullshit once you get down to it...watch American Drug War, and you’ll understand.
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 3:54 p.m. - Subject: |
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Quote: but it is a mind/brain altering substance that can be very dangerous
HAHA, tell me. How can it be VERY dangerous?
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 3:57 p.m. - Subject: |
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Quote: diminished or complete loss of sexual pleasure
actually educate yourself before you speak. There are non-biased studies that have found it can actually raise sperm count and can promote your sex drive. Propaganda is just trying to use scare tactics and please to your hormones. Think with your brain not your dick.
Quote: I think the government keeps it illegal so they can keep all the sports cars and money seized from international drug dealers,
its also political, many white , middle class straight edge suburbanites will vote based on the anti drug "war on drugs" propaganda . there votes will be lost if marijuana is legalized
I think thats an excellent Idea. I think prohibition in the U.S. Only encourages international drug trade even more.
Quote: who the fuck do you think you are diac?
I am a old member of RE (since 05) (dawginacar) who was well-respected until I left. First account I made, I had vipercussionist delete it, and then I re-opened under the same name but decided this place has gone to hell. I forgot that email I signed up with the one that’s still floating around, Anyway I come here every now and then to see if RE was like how it used to be. You’re not cool, Orly? Yarly
Quote: hm, i wonder what kind of price it would be after tax etc..
It is not taxed. And if it was taxed when made legal it would probably be sales tax? .0825% per dollar it costs? I go to dispensaries and an eighth of some really good sativa or any hybrid costs around $35-60
people would probably grow it on their own anyway. It would be extremely cheap.
Quote: It also is a gateway to harder drugs
Gateway, once again feed into the propaganda. What do you consider harder drugs? A completely natural substance is going to lead someone to do something synthetic? I dont think so, maybe more soft drugs IE: Salvia, LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline but nothing like from weed to heroin.
Quote: It is illegal because they want fucking money.
Do you realize how much money people make off drugs?
1) Drug dealers, if it was legal, there would be few.
2) Prisons (and everyone who works in them)
3) Cops
4) Lawyers, Judges, Security Guards at court etc.
Not to mention that you can稚 patent a plant, hence no money to make.
Hell we can just sell anyone with pain some fucking synthetic opiates and there you go 10$ a pill! Way more money than the medicine companies could make off marijuana!
Just a whole line of bullshit once you get down to it...watch American Drug War, and you値l understand.
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but it is a mind/brain altering substance that can be very dangerous
HAHA, tell me. How can it be VERY dangerous?
You bring up some great points too. Opiates, anti-depressants and other Rx drugs have done SO much more harm then marijuana. Hi jeff
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 4:13 p.m. - Subject: |
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Seriously it does not matter, I can get marijuana easier than I can get tylenol, so if the government wants to try and tell me what to do, so be it, and if I get caught, so be that too, buy the ticket take the ride.
But true, pre5cription drugs are handed out so often now-a-days that it’s pretty much like going to an expensive drug dealer, and slowly people are figuring it out...I went to the doctors not so long ago, and I had back problems, and he asked what was wrong with me and I stated the usual, and literally he asked if I wanted at least 4 pre5criptions!?!
I believe that if someone wants to put a drug in their own body, let them. As long as they only harm themselves, but come on? We have doctors going around giving pre5cription amphetamines that completely alter a little kids’ way of life because they have trouble in school, fuck that!
If you caught me doing that on the street I guarantee you I’d be doing at least 15 years, it’s a fucked up world, and it’s not going to change, our parents generation got as close as unity as possible, but still far from perfect.
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 4:14 p.m. - Subject: |
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Wow, I was all over the map on that one...you still got the point.
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 4:22 p.m. - Subject: |
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totally dude. I just dont trust the big pharmaceutical companies. Remember Bayer having the aids tainted inject able medicine for hemophiliacs?
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