How to deal with a liar?
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 9:50 a.m. - Subject: How to deal with a liar? |
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Hi everyone,
I recently found this website which I find very interesting and I’d like to share something that’s happened to me and I’d like to know your opinions about it.
Months ago I hacked into someone’s computer because I suspected he lied to me ever since I knew him. Let’s call him D. I read his emails and his msn conversations and indeed, D was nothing BUT a liar. He lied to me but he also lied to every people he meets and he still continues to lie to everyone.
Something important I discovered is that D is gay and into very kinky sex. For example, tying the partner, hurting them mainly on the private parts, make them drink his piss and smell his shit, sex games like kidnapping, torturing and raping... and I won’t describe the pictures and videos I found ! D takes exclusively the role of the "Master", i.e. the person who hurts the others, who he calls his "slaves" and treats like nobodies. And with normal people, D talks to them exactly like they are inferior to him, especially when he argues with them about something, and he likes to give people hell.
About the things D did:
- he lies to people about his age, mainly to attract younger boys - he is about 40 but he claims he is 27 or younger.
- he uses several msn accounts to test people’s trust.
- he lied about where he lived and what he was doing, he even told someone that his brother-in-law just died and that he had to travel to China for some time to comfort his brother-in-law’s family.
- he broke a couple by claiming he had sex with one of the partners, who denies, and D even faked msn conversations and sms to prove the partner was a liar.
- he was attracted to one of his colleagues, a 17-year-old boy, and used a fake account to get information from him by claiming he’s just a 14-year-old boy who isn’t sure about his orientation. D was quickly busted but he kept denying he wasn’t who he really was, even gave threats if the colleague didn’t admit D was right. I contacted that colleague and he told me that D also stalked him.
- he took pictures of one of his housemates while he was having a shower - D shares a house and he’s also the owner. Later, D deleted or hid the pictures and claimed that he never took any pictures because he was just bluffing, that it was just a game. And then, he tried to convince the other housemates that that housemate was just a liar, was not trustworthy and shouldn’t be talked to.
- he threatened to expel one of his housemates from the house if he didn’t believe anything D said, which are just very silly unimportant things but just because the housemate disagrees with D, the housemate had to leave.
- he banned one of the housemate’s girlfriend from the house just because she was a girl.
- even with his family, he treats them like they should respect and always agree with him. In case there’s an argument, it’s always the other people’s fault, not D’s. And he never listens to anything other people’s said but always says "Remember, one day, you did something very VERY bad - like arguing with one’s husband, not washing the dishes when they were supposed to, not liking some food D made - so you’re in NO position to tell me I’m wrong".
I’m in one these cases and ever since I discovered what he was doing, I keep contacting the people he is lying to to tell them the truth about D. Only thing is most of these people can’t see how dangerous that guy can be and just go on with their lives. I just wish something really bad happens to him.
I discovered most of his accounts and their passwords and even his mobile number and I’ve been using them to track his doing and warn people everytime D tells a lie. But now, I’m just fed up with all the lies D keeps pouring out everyday but I just can’t ignore what he’s been doing, so I’ve been thinking about doing something really big with his accounts and mobile number, like deleting all his emails and contacts, changing his passwords, putting his mobile number on the internet, and even his email adresses on the internet in case he gets his accounts back,... If anyone has any more suggestions, or maybe an alternative to deal with that guy, I would be really thankful.
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 10:08 a.m. - Subject: |
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umm expose him to authoritys
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 10:37 a.m. - Subject: |
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Thanks for your reply. I already thought about that but the people I contacted just refuse to back me up and I just can’t go to the authorities without admitting I hacked his computer. Plus, he might say that, since I hacked, I could have faked everything.
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 10:56 a.m. - Subject: |
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Go to the police. They can help you expose him for what he really is. If you try to do it on your own, you risk inadvertently destroying evidence. If your local police department doesn’t want to help you, go to the State police.
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 11:25 a.m. - Subject: |
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send me the stuff!
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 3:11 p.m. - Subject: |
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Fine. But if I go to the police, what should/shouldn’t I say?
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 4:11 p.m. - Subject: |
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If he stays in the Uk he aint breaking any laws.
So I would just leave the guy alone because as far as I can see you are the one doing something wrong by "hacking" someones computer,well thats the way the police would see it.
Just fuck him off and get on with your own ife.
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 6:27 p.m. - Subject: |
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He lives in Australia. I’m not used to the Australian laws but that’s exactly what I fear as I had to hack his computer to find the truth.
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2008 7:25 p.m. - Subject: |
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It sounds like he is a lier and creep like you say but because you hacked his computer your risking your own ass.
the only thing you CAN do is grab whats on his computer and SHOW those people what hes been doing.
Example: if the pictures of the guy in the shower are still on the computer, show them to the guy that was in the shower.
Just basically grab what you have solid evidence of and show all those people.
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| Posted: Aug 06, 2008 1:33 a.m. - Subject: |
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That’s exactly what I’ve been doing all this time. Whenever there’s a proof I can give them, I do it. I told the colleague to search for the account adress on MySpace and there’s a nice picture of that idiot, complete with his real age. About the pictures taken in the shower, he deleted them or hid them somewhere because I couldn’t find them but he really took those pictures and as a proof, there was one of his msn conversation with one of his friends during which he boasted he was able to take a nude picture of the housemate in the shower.
But most of the times, I just can’t give any reliable proofs.
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| Posted: Aug 06, 2008 2:45 a.m. - Subject: |
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well if your friends with the person who was in the shower and had pics taken of him without his knowledge and you know he’ll believe you tell him!
but other then that, if you dont have a relationship with one of the people hes done sick shit to then theres really nothing you can do without looking like a creep. lol
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| Posted: Aug 06, 2008 3:12 a.m. - Subject: |
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Yeah I noticed. I’m just fed up that kind of guy even exists. I still live in the house cause that’s the only place I can afford and it’s very difficult to bear his very own presence. I’m a guy and sometimes I feel like he’s looking at me in strange ways. I even rarely take a shower when he’s in the house.
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| Posted: Aug 06, 2008 4:00 p.m. - Subject: |
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Well with that type of person i dont think it will matter.
Ive known people like that. You could put the evidence in front of their face and they’ll still deny it.
Its actually kind of sad that he feels that he has to lie about anything and everything to make himself feel valuable.
I cant even imagine what this guys home life must have been like as a kid.
People like him usually come from fucked up families, so i guess what im saying is try to see the sadness through the shit hes doing because it could also be a cry for help of some sort.
im not in anyway justifying the shit he has done, but when you come from a fucked up home you dont walk away from that shit without SOME sort of emotional or psychological scars, even if you dont realize it.
This guy needs help that only a professional can give. If you have to, call a psych ward and see what the signs are for certain mental illnesses
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| Posted: Aug 07, 2008 3:01 p.m. - Subject: |
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You’re actually right Garg. Even faced with good evidence, that guy continues to lie. For example, he used a fake identity on msn to test someone but one day, he made the mistake to use a real picture of him as his avatar. The other guy noticed it and was quick to figure out the truth but he denied everything even insulted him and said that the picture was actually his "boyfriend"’s.
I also believe that he has a psychological problem but a professional help is only good if he admits he has a problem.
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